ANIMAL TIN CURRENCY.(PART 1)
Malaya Perak Animal Tin Currency
Rarity:RRR/SS49
Last Saturday (21-04-2012),I received a call from my coin grading sifu Mr.Tony Au to join him with an other Pakar Numismatik Malaysia (PNM) Master Tan Tai Seng at Berjaya Times Square,Kuala Lumpur.
I arrived earlier at Bob Chew shop.Mr.Bob Chew showed me a piece of animal tin ingot. It was an elephant shape tin currency.
As usual, is my habit to know more, I flipped through Mr.Saran Singh's "The Encyclopaedia of The Coins Of Malaysia Singapore And Brunei 1400-1986 (First Edition)." It was on page 191, coded:SS49 and graded RRR.
I was told by Mr.Bob Chew, it belongs to a collector who got it from a farmer in Perak. The farmer found two pieces in his farm, another piece was smaller in size.
Master Tan Tai Seng and Sifu Tony Au both arrived at the same time in the shop..I showed this elephant tin currency to master Tan,he is very experience on Malay States Tin coins,on one glance, he said it was a replica ingot, a real piece will cost RM15,000 at today price.His statement was supported by Sifu Tony Au. Sifu Tony Au claimed that it was made of lead material. To double confirm their authentication, master Tan held the ingot in his hand and said it was too heavy in weight,and sifu Tony Au held it and scratched across a white paper, I saw a line was drawn .He tried and used its head,body and legs drew a few more lines on the paper and claimed it was lead material and not tin,tin will not leave marks on the paper.
Later at night, I also posted on my facebook and requested help from Sifu Ishar A.Latiff, Sifu Kenny Ong and Sifu Wei Yen Kong.
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Beware of replica tin coins and animal tin currency !
Rarity:RRR/SS49
Last Saturday (21-04-2012),I received a call from my coin grading sifu Mr.Tony Au to join him with an other Pakar Numismatik Malaysia (PNM) Master Tan Tai Seng at Berjaya Times Square,Kuala Lumpur.
I arrived earlier at Bob Chew shop.Mr.Bob Chew showed me a piece of animal tin ingot. It was an elephant shape tin currency.
As usual, is my habit to know more, I flipped through Mr.Saran Singh's "The Encyclopaedia of The Coins Of Malaysia Singapore And Brunei 1400-1986 (First Edition)." It was on page 191, coded:SS49 and graded RRR.
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Master Tan Tai Seng and Sifu Tony Au both arrived at the same time in the shop..I showed this elephant tin currency to master Tan,he is very experience on Malay States Tin coins,on one glance, he said it was a replica ingot, a real piece will cost RM15,000 at today price.His statement was supported by Sifu Tony Au. Sifu Tony Au claimed that it was made of lead material. To double confirm their authentication, master Tan held the ingot in his hand and said it was too heavy in weight,and sifu Tony Au held it and scratched across a white paper, I saw a line was drawn .He tried and used its head,body and legs drew a few more lines on the paper and claimed it was lead material and not tin,tin will not leave marks on the paper.
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Great info bro, well written.
ReplyDeleteThey're many tin replica in the market. Sadly many newbies don't care about it, as long as the seller told them it is a good buy, they will buy it. An action that they will regret later.
Hi Dickson,
ReplyDeleteWe have seen quite a number of these items of various sizes being sold in shops.
Yes, not sure, don't buy, we agree with you.
And also one of the main reasons why we have not gone serious into ancient coins.
And thanks a lot for the extremely useful info about tin will not leave marks on a piece of white paper while lead do.
We even noticed there are a number of doubtful top grade and very well struck Straits Settlements coins floating in the market too lately.
Thank you so much for the info, Dickson.
We hope you and other sifus can continue to update us with information on the latest fakes.
Like we always say, these crooks are always trying to outdo even the experts.
Well, maybe if we look at it positively, the emergence of fakes on a particular item shows it is gaining popularity, just like the Chinese dragons coins and even locally our error coins.
After all, no crooks will want to fake anything not in demand or not popular.
Just our two cents :D
It look like a beetle to me. Maybe an elephant beetle.., Hihihihi....
ReplyDeleteWhy they're using lead, not tin?
Wow it would be great if it's real, but isn't it "kumbang" (horn beetle) rather than elephant? i have also seen a lot of these animal tin currency posted in Fb, mostly by Indonesians, not buying though, can't be sure if it's real.
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Lunaticg,
ReplyDeleteThey insist to pay the tuition fees and learn through the expensive way.
Hi whycollect,
ReplyDeleteWe fighting against an uphill counterfeits battle.This crooks are using more state of art technology to do forgery business, we just need to be more advance and knowledgeable then them.
Hi Malaysia Coin,
ReplyDeleteI thought you are going to say it is a "ladybird'!
They're using lead and not tin because lead is cheaper and low melting point, easier to form sharp.
Hi Sam,
ReplyDeleteExtra careful and beware of tin coins come from Indonesia, a lot of them are forgery .