POST MINT JOB -DEFACED COINS
Malaysia Coins With Post Mint Job Errors,Manually Defaced
I repost these pictures of Post Mint Job coins because they are still being sold on ebay Malaysia very frequently.
You can also find them in week end Flea Market at Armcorp Mall.
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| An Incused Design Of Wau. |
I bought this coin from an eBay dealer and he is still selling them freely for a good money on ebay and facebook recently.When I saw this error coin on eBay,it looked like a Counter Brockage Error coin or resembled a Double Strike Error coin.When I took a second look,it exhibits an rotated incused image of "Wau" kite on the obverse.It was a post mint job error coin by manually defaced the obverse.
If you are familiar and understand the coin minting process in the Mint,it is impossible to have such design of errors!
Some unscupulous persons used a hydraulic machine (I think) to press on reverse side of a 50 cents by placing the obverse face to face on the obverse of this coin,a calculated pressure was applied so that it will not tarnishes the details of the earlier struck.To soften the to-be-error coin for perfect result, heat may be applied.
Be very cautious when you purchase on eBay.
Here are more samples of Post Mint Job coins.
"The above coin appears to be a Post Mint job heavily hammered or struck together with another similar 1977 coin with the reverse facing the coin's obverse thereby created the partial incuse reverse image and the obvious damage on the corresponding opposing reverse side." nucoins commented.
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| Ghostly Images. |
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| Lighter In Weight. |
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Notes: How to detect these counterfeit error coins?
"The faked image
superimposed on the original image can never totally obliterate the
original image but appears rather ghostly.
It was due to the very much lighter pressure by the hydraulic press instead of those powerful minting press in the mint.
This could be one of the features that we should look out for to identify these Post Mint Job coins." said Whycollect.
Warning: Defaced a coin still in circulation is an offence in Malaysia.
http://dniewcollectors.blogspot.com/2011/05/malaysia-coin-striking-errorswhat.html .
Hi Mr Dickson,
ReplyDeleteNampaknya syiling juga boleh berperanan sebagai die..haha
Semua peminat syiling error akan berterima kasih pada Mr Dickson untuk post peringatan ini.Sekiranya gejala penipuan ini berterusan,situasi ini memberi gambaran buruk masyarakat luar terhadap numismatik negara kita dan gejala ini juga akan menyebabkan minat orang ramai terhadap syiling error akan hilang.
Setelah beberapa peringatan diberi tapi gejala ini masih berterusan dan nampaknya semakin berleluasa dgn berbagai error yg sukar dipercayai..Peranan pakar2 syiling error Spt Mr Dickson dan rakan2 sangat membantu untuk menangani hal ini.Sepatutnya pembeli merujuk terlebih dahulu pada mereka2 ini sebelum mengambil keputusan untuk membeli..
Terima kasih banyak2 Mr Dickson...
Hi Dickson,
ReplyDeleteOMG, what else these buggers can't do.
After going through the examples above, it looks like the faked image superimposed on the original image can never totally obliterate the original image but appears rather ghostly.
Could it be due to the very much lighter pressure by the hydraulic press instead of those powerful minting press in the mint.
Could this be one of the features that we should look out for to identify fakes like these here.
Very important article and useful information for error coin collectors like us.
Thanks a lot, Dickson :)
Hi Depankanta,
ReplyDeleteSaya lihat semakin banyak penjual syiling error PMJ berleluasa di ebay,facebook dan juga gerai kaki lima.
Harap peminat error coins berwas-was semasa beli error coins!
Hi whycollect,
ReplyDeleteI did this post in a hurry because I saw more PMJ coins posted on ebay Malaysia.
Allow me to quote some of your good descriptions and paste them on my post!
Thank you in advance!
Hi Dickson,
ReplyDeleteShould eBay be told of these forgeries and the name of the eBay seller be made known.
Something must be done to protect genuine collectors.
Hi Dickson,
ReplyDeleteCertainly, no problem at all.
Please just extract from our post if you need anything.
By the way, hope so you can kindly point out to us if we have inadvertently considered certain errors to be genuine instead of PMDs.
Phew, we find this aspect the hardest to master.
These crooks are always trying to be a step ahead of us, haha.
Anyway, thats the thrill out of the hobby.
Haha, no pain no gain.
Thanks a lot, Dickson :)
No wonder lah, everytime I asked for error coins for sale, most of coin dealers said they don't keep stock of it due to fake, counterfeits, assisted errors and error coins not valuable. This information above are very useful to us error coin collectors so not being cheated and be aware and cautious. Thanks Dickson for the useful information!!
ReplyDeleteHi clement,
ReplyDeleteYou are most welcome to do so!
And eBay admin should also be vigilant to these unscupulous group of people. After complaints,they were re-registered with a different id,from Lxx Chia Wxx to CWLxx,next is Chia Wxx Lxx.is the same crook.He is in eBay and facebook as well.My friend, a Doctor in US complaint to me that he ordered something from him (Lxx Chia Wxx)),but he never make delivery,Doctor had to request Paypal to withdraw the payment and lost the processing fees.
Stewart Tan ,
ReplyDeleteHi,happy to know that you will be more vigilant when you want to buy error coins.
Hi Mr.Danny,
ReplyDeleteSee you on October,bring me some of your error coins to share !