Showing posts with label Post Mint Job Coins. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Post Mint Job Coins. Show all posts

POST MINT JOB ERROR COINS ON BUNGA RAYA SERIES

More Post Mint Job (PMJ) Error Coins Are In The Market.(3)
These unscrupulous caveat emptors are not just doing PMJ error coins on Parliament House series, they also try their luck on the Bunga Raya series.
Dot On Top
In the market, our recent "Hot" item on error coin is the 2009 Bunga Raya series 5 Cents "Twin Tower" Double Dies Variety. It was sold at RM25 at the initial,then listed at RM120 in the Malacca Auction on 6th July 2013.It was priced at RM200 in one of the dealer shop at Berjaya Times Square. Now it was still sold at RM50 to RM60.
Dot On Top
Being sensitive to the current market demands, these "professional" unscrupulous counterfeiters are quick enough to punch some PMJ  "Dot" error coins on the Bunga Raya series.

POST MINT JOB ERROR COINS RESEMBLED 1979 50 CENTS 'DOT'

More Post Mint Job (PMJ) Error Coins Are In The Market.(2)
This afternoon, a dealer showed me more PMJ error coins. This is an other piece of  1982 Parliament series 5 Cents PMJ error coin with a incused circle punched at the base of the Parliament House. The unscrupulous caveat emptors were trying to imitate or resemble the Malaysia 1979 50 Cents "Dot" by counter punched an incused circle at the same position on the base of the Parliament House.

Dot at the base of the Parliament House
What an easy way to make extra money by such an irresponsible act. Don't they realize how sad will be for the newbies to buy such a PMJ coins from them or even some senior collectors who just want to start to collect some error coins. We hope they will stop selling PMJ error coins.

Dot at the base of the Parliament House

 They were sold for more then RM120 to RM350 a piece by  some coin dealers.
 To Be Continued................

POST MINT JOB ERROR ON 1982 5 CENTS STAR

More Post Mint Job (PMJ) Error Coins Are In The Market.(1)

On 28-5-2012, I posted an article about a counterfeit  1982 5 cents coin with extra "Dot"on Parliament House. It was formed by a punch on the Parliament House, around the 'Dot' is an incused circle.

On 12-6-2013,I wrote another article about another piece of Post Mint Job (PMJ) 1982 5 cents coin with extra "Dot"on Parliament House coin. It was a 1982 5 cents coin with a welded "Dot" on the Parliament building .
Dot On Star
This is yet another piece of  1982 Parliament series 5 Cents PMJ error coin with a punched incused circle on the star. Those unscrupulous caveat emptors are trying to convince error coins collectors that it is a "Dot" on the star.
Dot On Star
I did a cross checking by inspecting the reverse position of the punched on the coin, it was very obvious that you can see a sign of damaged field of the "countermark". So please be more careful and vigilant when you buy an error coin.
Dot On Star

MORE FORGERRY ERROR COINS IN FLEA MARKET

Sunday Flea Markets Flooded With Forgery Error Coins.


On 12th June 2013, I published an article on a piece of  "FORGERY DOT ON 1982 5 CENTS" coin that I found at a famous Sunday flea market in Kuala Lumpur. I visited the same venue again yesterday,I saw dealers are selling more varieties of forgery error coins.There are ranging from 1988 50 cents with "DOTS", 1982 5 cents with "DOTS" and even created some forgery "Split Planchet Before Strike" errors, "Die Trial Strike" error coins.


These unscrupulous caveat emptors welded a "Dot" on the 1988 50 cents coin's Parliament building and removed the burnt mark by polished the whole coin.They polished planchets of Malaysia Parliament Series 50 Cents from various dates until there were thin in thickness, so that the dealers can sell them as "Split Planchet Before Strike" errors, "Die Trial Strike" error coins to fool the error coins enthusiast newbies.

There are also many artificial toned coins for sale in the Sunday flea market as well. These dealers sold them for RM40 per piece.I believed that these artificial toned coins were made by using chemical or "toasted" with oxyacetylene flame.There were toned in purplish blue and golden colour.Those toned coins were mostly the Bunga Raya series of common dates in uncirculated condition.

Dealers claimed that their "stocks" were supplied by a "Malay Boy".

I was not allowed to take photo on those forgery items.

FORGERY DOT ON 1982 5 CENTS-UPDATES

Forgery Dot On Malaysia 1982 5 Cents.-Updates
Rarity:RRR
Malaysia Parliament House Series or the 1st series Malaysia coin dated 1982 5 Cents coin with extra "Dots" on Parliament House die gouged error coins  are priced RM150/UNC and RM200/BU respectively as listed in Standard Catalogue of Malaysia Singapore Brunei Coin & Paper Money 20th edition by Mr.Steven Tan.But the current market are pricing this extra "Dots" 5 cents coin at RM200/UNC and RN250/BU.
Genuine 1982 5 cents coin with extra "Dot"on Parliament

On 28-5-2012, I posted an article about a counterfeit  1982 5 cents coin with extra "Dot"on Parliament House. It was formed by a punch on the Parliament House, around the 'Dot' is an incused circle.

Last Sunday, I was given another piece of Post Mint Job (PMJ) 1982 5 cents coin with extra "Dot"on Parliament House coins. Those unscrupulous caveat emptors are trying their luck again.This time they welded a "Dot" on the Parliament building and removed the burnt mark by polished the whole coin. However, it was done poorly, the "mould" is too big and the finishing is badly done.

For more details, you may also visit this post in my Blog: http://dniewcollectors.blogspot.com/2012/05/forgery-dot-on-1982-5-cents.html


1982 10 CENTS PMJ UNIFACED

Malaysia 1982 10 Cents With Post Mint Job (PMJ) Unifaced Errors.

This is an other piece of Post Mint Job (PMJ) coin. The total surface on the obverse of this coin was filed away by using a rotary buffing machine.

Malaysia 1982 10 Cents

On the obverse of the coin are the concentric lines that use to see on a counterfeits coin.

Malaysia 1982 10 Cents

You can see there were signs of gripped marks on the edge of the coin.
Malaysia 1982 10 Cents
Malaysia 1982 10 Cents

Malaysia 1982 10 Cents

You can also see signs of curved metals at the edge of the coin resulted by the rotary files.
Weight:2.05gm, normal weight :2.82gm, different of .77gm.

Malaysia 1982 10 Cents

I was told by the owner, he collected this unifaced coin together with other newly released coins from the Bank. He checked with the BNM officer, the BNM officer replied to him this is a genuine coin and likely it was being used to do some metal testing or for some other purposes that someone in the BNM Kilang Wang may know.

FAKED CURVE CLIP ERRORS.

Malaysia Parliament Series 1973 50 Cents Coin With Faked Curve Clip Errors


A faked curve clipped error coin was in my sifu possession for more then 25 years. I was lucky to be given the chance to inherit  his Malaysia Parliament House series 1973 50 Cents coin with a very well done faked curve clipped error.
1973 50 cents

Collectors should  learn the diagnostics of this curve clip error due to the ease and frequency in which they are faked.

How to detect a faked Curved Clip Error Coin?  
Always,the rim opposite the curve clip will be flat and poorly formed. This effect is known as the "Blakesley effect" and occurs due to the absence of pressure in that area during the rim upsetting process. Normally the blank rotates through the mill which becomes increasingly tighter on the opposing sides of the blank as it progresses through. This creates the pressure necessary to upset the rim. When the blank rotates to the area of the curved clip the pressure is released and the rim fails to be formed in the area opposite the curved clip.


However, the "Blakesley effect" sometime does not appear on curved clip error coin, most probably due to the curved clip was too small, so collectors must learn to recognize other diagnostics of a genuine curved clip error coin.    


Look for tapering at the edge (especially at the extreme opposite edges or lips of the clip where it meets the raised rim) and notice how the metal flows and design details close to the edge stretch or elongate. On a real error you would expect to see the detail nearest the clip to fade away.

Faked Curve Clip Errors
On a fake it would just come to a sudden end. If you look closely at the picture especially the rim, beading and the letters closes to the edge you can see the detail fading. This would not happen if the coin was to be a post mint error and on one which has been cut.

The curvature should always resemble or similar to the size of the affected coin, in this case should be the size of a 50 Cents, but on this curve clip error coin,the faked curve clipped  is the size of a 10 cents coin.

Faked Curve Clip Errors
Faked Curve Clip Errors
Not all of these effects always occur and sometimes they are minimal but one or more of these diagnostics will generally be present on a genuine clip.

COUNTERMARK-POST MINT ERRORS

Malaysia Parliament 1968 10 Cents Coin With "1921" Countermark.


Today, Mr.Tai from Kula Lumpur visited me while I was having lunch with a numismatist at TJ Restaurant in Subang SS18.

He was introduced by Mr.Wee, an antique collector from Subang Jaya to visit me to authenticate 5 pieces of coins belong to him. Among that 5 pieces, this Malaysia Parliament 1968 10 Cents coin caught my attention.

Poat Mint Errors
Post Mint Errors

It is a coin with a very unique "1921" countermark chop on the obverse of the coin, just right underneath the Parliament House.The same position on the reverse showed a dent. It was a well done job! Mr. Tai told me  this coin was his late father collection.

Post Mint ErrorsPost Mint Errors

I have no clue at all on why this chop mark was struck on this coin? What is the purpose of having this chop mark? What does the "1921" means? Who did it? When was this being done?Where it was being done? And how it was being done?

Countermark, Post Mint Errors

Someone please help!




FORGERY DOT ON 1982 5 CENTS

Forgery Dot On Malaysia 1982 5 Cents.


This is another piece of Post Mint Job (PMJ) coins.Those smart caveat emptors are trying their luck again.

Few days ago, I was being approached by a dealer who showed me a piece of 1982 5 cents coin with extra "Dot"on Parliament House.

Forgery 'Dot'

Malaysia Parliament House Series definitive coins 1982 5 Cents coin exit with extra "Dots" on Parliament House varieties worth RM110/UNC and RM160/BU respectively as listed in Standard Catalogue of Malaysia Singapore Brunei Coin & Paper Money.
Original 'Dot'

When I placed the coin under a six times magnifying glass, I saw a different font of 'Dot'. It was formed by a punch on the Parliament House, around the 'Dot' is an incused circle.


Yesterday,a freelance coin dealer showed me another four pieces of similar Post Mint Job 1982 5 Cents coins, some pieces even can see the design elements on the 'Dot' ! He bought them from a facebook seller, each piece cost him for more than hundred ringgit.

In my research, a genuine piece of  1982 5 cents coin with extra "Dot"on Parliament House  should exhibits:

1. Many more small 'dots' on the left side of the main "Dot" on the Parliament House.


2. Many more small 'dots' on the star, and


3.A few more small 'dots' above the "GC" mark.


These extra small 'dots' can be seen clearly on a coin with EF to BU in condition.

POST MINT JOB -DEFACED COINS


Malaysia Coins With Post Mint Job Errors,Manually Defaced



I repost these pictures of Post Mint Job coins because they are still being sold on ebay Malaysia very frequently.
You can also find them  in week end Flea Market at Armcorp Mall.


An Incused Design Of Wau.
I bought this piece of Malaysia Parliament 1990 50 Cents error coin with an intention of showing you how we Malaysian "Boleh" to make such a beautiful Post Mint Job (PMJ) error coin.
I bought this coin from an eBay dealer and he is still selling them freely for a good money on ebay and facebook recently.When I saw this error coin on eBay,it looked like a Counter Brockage Error coin or resembled a Double Strike Error coin.When I took a second look,it exhibits an rotated incused image of "Wau" kite on the obverse.It was a post mint job error coin by manually defaced the obverse.
If you are familiar and understand the coin minting process in the Mint,it is impossible to have such design of errors!
Some unscupulous persons used a hydraulic machine (I think) to press on  reverse side of a 50 cents by placing the obverse face to face on the obverse of this coin,a calculated pressure was applied so that  it will not tarnishes the details of the earlier struck.To soften the to-be-error coin for perfect result, heat may be applied.
Be very cautious when you purchase on eBay.
Here are more samples of Post Mint Job coins.



"The above coin appears to be a Post Mint job heavily hammered or struck together with another similar 1977 coin with the reverse facing the coin's obverse thereby created the partial incuse reverse image and the obvious damage on the corresponding opposing reverse side." nucoins commented.

Ghostly Images.
Lighter In Weight.

Ghostly Images.
Ghostly Images.

Ghostly Images.

 Notes: How to detect these counterfeit error coins?

"The faked image superimposed on the original image can never totally obliterate the original image but appears rather ghostly.
It was due to the very much lighter pressure by the hydraulic press instead of those powerful minting press in the mint.
This could be one of the features that we should look out for to identify these Post Mint Job coins." said Whycollect.

Warning: Defaced a coin still in circulation is an offence in Malaysia.

Links:
http://dniewcollectors.blogspot.com/2011/05/malaysia-coin-striking-errorswhat.html .